Thursday, January 06, 2005

Jonny Baker is hard of hearing

Out to dinner last night with a big group here in London (here for the International Association for the Study of Youth Ministry), when Jonny Baker and his end of the table (Will Penner and Jay and Jen Howver of Youth Specialties and Mike King of YouthFront) started laughing hysterically after I ordered dessert. [Background: Frangelico is an Italian hazelnut liquour, and it's highly yummy.]

What I said to the waiter: "I'd like the tiramisu, an espresso, and a Frangelico."

What Jonny heard me say: "I'd like the tiramisu, an espresso, and I'm an evangelical."


Blogger EL MOL said...

tiramisu, an espresso, and a Frangelico

could this be the new blog name for 05?



7:28 AM  
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11:49 AM  
Blogger the POSTER said...

If what I am reading is true from D. G. Harts’ book, Deconstructing Evangelicalism, that the old historical Park Street Church in Boston, a Mainline Denominational Congregational Church, has been one of the points of power for Evangelicalism in America...maybe Tony, you had a Freudian slip and really want to work at Park Street and jump back into that pool!

Enjoy being across the pond! When you get back maybe you can buy me one of those drinks!;-)

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about coffee with Frangelico, Bailey's Irish Creme, and Kahlua--then try having just one :~) Clearly I've had one too many episodes of "damn, I should've only had one". Shit, now I'm going to have to go out tonight and have one of these-thanks alot Tony!!!!

12:36 PM  
Blogger Chris Enstad said...

From the latest sojournors:

ROCHESTER, Minn. — At The Circle, a young, innovative church which meets in a renovated bus depot, there is no pulpit, platform or pastor, as such. The congregation rejects the labels "Christian" and "congregation," preferring "followers of Jesus" and "friendship community."
    There are no ushers, but rather "helpers."
    There is no worship team, but rather "God artists."
    And woe to anyone who affixes traditional church labels to any of it.
    "God's doing a new thing here," says Mitch Townsend, the leader of the church. He shuns the "pastor" label and insists people call him, "Hey, man," or simply "Dude." If someone slips and calls him "pastor," he bristles and gently rebukes them.
    "We got rid of all those old labels," he says. "There's no going back."
    At the church office, which they never call a church office but rather "the Hub," secretaries, or "community action facilitators" as they are called here, tap-tap on computers (which they still call computers) and take calls.
    When a visitor slips up and refers to The Circle's "sanctuary," Dude Townsend cuts him short.
    "Listen, it's not a sanctuary, it's a meeting place, a gathering place," he says, flushing red.
    "Sorry, pastor," the visitor says.
    "Not pastor," says Townsend. "Dude, or friend. Or just hey, Mitch."
    "Sorry, Dude Mitch," the visitor says uncomfortably, and slinks away. Mitch quickly goes to him and hugs him.
    "We're all about love and freedom here," he says. "I know it's hard to get used to."
    At a Sunday morning "gathering," as services must be called, people sit in chairs arranged in circle around a "focal point" (not a platform) and listen to the team of God-artists play instruments and sing "songs of adoration and devotion to the Creator," as opposed to praise and worship music. The gathered "posse of Jesus followers" is free to sing along and to express themselves in any way that seems "real and authentic."
    "We strive to be genuine here," says non-pastor "Hey, Jim" Richards, who in another setting might be called an associate pastor. "It's about being who you are, not fitting into a pre-determined box."
    Before Dude Mitch's personal sharing time (which markedly resembles a sermon), one visitor raises her hand and says, "Is there going to be an altar call? Because I really want to give my life to Jesus today."
    Dude Mitch answers quickly, "We don't have altar calls here; we have 'God moments' or 'Creator re-connects.' And we don't say 'give your life to Jesus,' but you may begin a lifelong love relationship with the Creator-Friend, if you like. But please wait until we are done with sharing time."
    After the service, "new friends" join in the "kick-back hall" for refreshments and conversation with the Dudes and other Hub personnel. They may also join a mid-week "hang-out crew" of 10-12 people which meets in a home, and which is steadfastly not referred to as a "small group."
    "Anyone who wants a break from normal, rigid church life is welcome at The Circle," says Townsend. •

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1:56 PM  
Blogger dave p said...

Sounds a bit fishy.

I thought he was hard of herring...

8:12 PM  

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